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		<title>Chatter Tool Results</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Keith Larrett</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p> <p>I finally got a chance to play with the chatter tool I made.  My initial experiments were pretty disappointing.   The tool was &#8220;screeching&#8221; as it is supposed to, but I only seemed to be able to put spiral grooves on the test piece.   My first thought was that the blade was not thick <p><a href="http://syzygypens.com/blog/2009/11/25/chatter-tool-results/">Continue reading ...</a></p>
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<p>I finally got a chance to play with the <a href="http://syzygypens.com/blog/2009/11/12/homemade-chatter-tool/">chatter tool</a> I made.  My initial experiments were pretty disappointing.   The tool was &#8220;screeching&#8221; as it is supposed to, but I only seemed to be able to put spiral grooves on the test piece.   My first thought was that the blade was not thick enough and I was getting too much &#8220;deflection&#8221; and not enough &#8220;chatter&#8221;.  I had used on old jigsaw blade, so I took an old sawzall blade and cut and shaped that.  Even though it was wider, and offer less give, I was still just getting spiral grooves.</p>
<p>So I took the two blades back to the grinder and ground a very slight bevel on the edges.  More importantly I rounded over the point of the blade so that instead of coming to a sharp point it came to a blunt, slightly round point.   Immediately I started to see improvements!  Both the jig saw blade and the sawzall blade worked great, although they did produce different patterns.</p>
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<p>There are no shortage of patterns you can get with the chatter tool.  Whether any of them are repeatable is open to debate though!  A number of variables affect the pattern.</p>
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<li>The amount of the blade sticking out the tool.</li>
<li>The distance from the tool rest to the work piece.</li>
<li>The speed of the lathe.</li>
<li>How hard you push the tool into the work piece.</li>
<li>How quickly you move the cutting edge across the work piece.</li>
<li>How many times you move the cutting edge across the work piece.</li>
<li>The angle the cutting edge is presented.</li>
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<p>The image below shows some examples.  I colored the patterns with a black permanent marker so they would show better in the image.</p>
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<p>A chatter tool is used primarily in end grain, so applications include embellishments on box lids, spinning tops etc.  The chatter tool will work better on hardwoods than softwoods.</p>
<p>After spending an hour or so playing with the tool, I feel the most important variables are lathe speed and distance of the tool rest from the work piece.  For the most part the tool is presented so that the blade is horizontal and the handle is closer to you than the blade.   The tool rest is about 4 to 6&#8243; from the workpiece and lathe speed is around 1000 rpm.  The blade is pushed into the wood and then pulled from the center to the edge.  Rotating the tool slightly counter clockwise will change the pattern achieved, but it will also cause the tool to move towards the edge of the work piece a lot faster!!  I found lathe speeds between 750 and 1800 worked with an optimum range between 1000 and 1200.</p>
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		<title>Homemade Chatter Tool</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Keith Larrett</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been wanting to try some different embellishment techniques, one of which was chatter work.  However I kept on balking at the price of a new chatter tool.  I decided to make my own.  It cost me $3.00 and a hour or two on a Sunday afternoon.</p> <p>I got a 1/2&#8243; x 10&#8243; nipple <p><a href="http://syzygypens.com/blog/2009/11/12/homemade-chatter-tool/">Continue reading ...</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been wanting to try some different embellishment techniques, one of which was chatter work.  However I kept on balking at the price of a new chatter tool.  I decided to make my own.  It cost me $3.00 and a hour or two on a Sunday afternoon.<a href="http://syzygypens.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/ACT_859607.jpg" rel="wp-prettyPhoto[g1223]"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1216" title="ACT_859607" src="http://syzygypens.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/ACT_859607-300x201.jpg" alt="ACT_859607" width="300" height="201" /></a></p>
<p>I got a 1/2&#8243; x 10&#8243; nipple from the plumbing department at the home improvement store, along with a 3/4&#8243; long 1/4 20 bolt.  The rest of the materials I used were in the shop already including a used jigsaw blade.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">I mounted the pipe between centers on the lathe and after a bit of sanding it was nice and shiny.  I then cut the threads off one end and drilled and tapped a 1/4 20 thread about 3/4&#8243; back from that end.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The next step was to mount a cherry pen blank in a chuck and turn it down to 1/2&#8243; so that if fit inside the pipe.   I only turned down the first couple of inches, and then put it in a vise and cut it lengthwise.   This off cut was then glued into the pipe with CA glue, the bolt served as a clamp.</p>
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<p>After turning the block of wood to be used as a handle round, I drilled it to fit the the OD of the pipe.  Unfortunately, the OD of the pipe was around 13/16&#8243; and the only forstner bits I had were 3/4&#8243; and 7/8&#8243;.  So I drilled with the 3/4&#8243; and then widened the hole using a square edge scraper until the pipe fit inside.  The image below show the handle shaped and sanded, just prior to being parted off.</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m playing with dyes at the moment, so I applied a red dye to the handle and then a couple of coats of shellac.  While I was waiting for the shellac to dry, I ground the teeth off the jigsaw blade, shaped the point of the blade and bent it as in the image below.</p>
<p><a href="http://syzygypens.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/ACT_859506.jpg" rel="wp-prettyPhoto[g1223]"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1222" title="ACT_859506" src="http://syzygypens.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/ACT_859506-300x201.jpg" alt="ACT_859506" width="300" height="201" /></a> <a href="http://syzygypens.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/ACT_859305.jpg" rel="wp-prettyPhoto[g1223]"></a></p>
<p>The completed tool, ready for testing!  Did I mention how nice and shiny it is!<br />
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<p style="text-align: left;">I&#8217;ll show some pictures in a future post of the results from the tool.  I also have a couple more jig saw blades and some sawzall blades.  I plan on experimenting a bit with the different blades and profiles and see what sort of results I get.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">If you&#8217;ve made a chatter tool let me know what type of blade and profile you got the best results with by posting a comment.   Thanks.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Update</strong>:  I got a chance to experiment with the chatter tool and have posted some images and comments.  You can view that post <a href="http://syzygypens.com/blog/2009/11/25/chatter-tool-results/">here</a>.</p>
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